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Postby albaz1369 » Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:19 pm

I see Aruba is limiting access to the island, will Casa Del Mar close for a couple of weeks like some of the other timeshares
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Re: corona virus

Postby Kris02420 » Wed Mar 18, 2020 2:30 pm

albaz1369 wrote:I see Aruba is limiting access to the island, will Casa Del Mar close for a couple of weeks like some of the other timeshares


Why would they be closed ? Only thing that has changed if you read the airport info page, they have stopped entry flights except Aruban citizens from March 15/16 to March 31, 2020 . If your on the island your good. If your coming home in between those blackout dates, all the major airlines from the US fly In every day to bring passengers back home to US . All resorts and restaurants , bars , pubs , beach’s. Pools are a go. Nothing has changed on the island except Tito Tuesday at ABC this week!!! That answer your question ?
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Re: corona virus

Postby Lisa K » Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:43 pm

Kris02420 wrote:
albaz1369 wrote:I see Aruba is limiting access to the island, will Casa Del Mar close for a couple of weeks like some of the other timeshares


Why would they be closed ? Only thing that has changed if you read the airport info page, they have stopped entry flights except Aruban citizens from March 15/16 to March 31, 2020 . If your on the island your good. If your coming home in between those blackout dates, all the major airlines from the US fly In every day to bring passengers back home to US . All resorts and restaurants , bars , pubs , beach’s. Pools are a go. Nothing has changed on the island except Tito Tuesday at ABC this week!!! That answer your question ?



Kris - loving your optimism, but unless you are here, which I think is not the case, you have no idea how Coronavirus has affected things here.

If you’re here (which we are), you’re looking for a way to leave the island because, while CDM is open and operational, most of us cannot afford to risk being stuck here until May.

Most airlines (except JetBlue, who made the decision to dishonor their moral obligation to their passengers just a few hours after the lockdown was announced) are flying tourists out of here until the end of this week into early next week. Then they’ll re-evaluate and decide whether they’re resuming flights in May.

There are no activities - no St. Patty’s Day celebrations, no Flag Day parade or celebrations today, Some of the high rise hotels have already closed, or will do so within the next few days. Restaurants, pubs, casinos have to close by 10pm, if they haven’t already shuttered to ride out this storm. We have been told that many places will close in April because there won’t be any business to keep them going during this global pandemic. Arubans are being encouraged to self isolate. It is a very serious crisis on this island. It is definitely not business as usual.
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Re: corona virus

Postby Kris02420 » Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:35 pm

Lisa K wrote:
Kris02420 wrote:
albaz1369 wrote:I see Aruba is limiting access to the island, will Casa Del Mar close for a couple of weeks like some of the other timeshares


Why would they be closed ? Only thing that has changed if you read the airport info page, they have stopped entry flights except Aruban citizens from March 15/16 to March 31, 2020 . If your on the island your good. If your coming home in between those blackout dates, all the major airlines from the US fly In every day to bring passengers back home to US . All resorts and restaurants , bars , pubs , beach’s. Pools are a go. Nothing has changed on the island except Tito Tuesday at ABC this week!!! That answer your question ?



Kris - loving your optimism, but unless you are here, which I think is not the case, you have no idea how Coronavirus has affected things here.

If you’re here (which we are), you’re looking for a way to leave the island because, while CDM is open and operational, most of us cannot afford to risk being stuck here until May.

Most airlines (except JetBlue, who made the decision to dishonor their moral obligation to their passengers just a few hours after the lockdown was announced) are flying tourists out of here until the end of this week into early next week. Then they’ll re-evaluate and decide whether they’re resuming flights in May.

There are no activities - no St. Patty’s Day celebrations, no Flag Day parade or celebrations today, Some of the high rise hotels have already closed, or will do so within the next few days. Restaurants, pubs, casinos have to close by 10pm, if they haven’t already shuttered to ride out this storm. We have been told that many places will close in April because there won’t be any business to keep them going during this global pandemic. Arubans are being encouraged to self isolate. It is a very serious crisis on this island. It is definitely not business as usual.


When you say crisis , which one do you mean (the economy or the Wuhan virus ) last we heard according to some other boards there were 2 reported cases. "Is that true" ? your there can you share this info if you know ? It also was the Aruba Governments idea to close off incoming tourism from the US correct ? By the way we understand wholly that decision ! We have a lot of friends who go these next 4 or 5 weeks and all were going. Now there screwed and apparently the island as well !!!!!!!! Hopefully the Government will reopen the airport "obviously" if they feel it safe to do so, we're all looking forward to coming down and spend some of our hard earned money to support Aruba. Open that airport if they feel the time is right,(its their island no one needs what s going on in the US and around the world there) and I think you'll see the airlines get up to speed pretty fast :D
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Re: corona virus

Postby JohnnyTram » Thu Mar 19, 2020 5:19 pm

@Kris02420 - You should refrain from calling this "the flu". The world has both treatment and a vaccine for influenza. We have also built up what is called a Heard Immunity to the common kinds of influenza strain and there for intense cases that require hospitalization are typically spread out both geographically and timeframe.

COVID-19 has no known treatment, no known vaccine, appears highly contagious and has the potential to infect a large population in a short period of time.

Some math to consider:

Aruba has a population of about 100,000 people (according to a Google search)
Coronavirus is infecting anywhere from 20-50% of the population based on data from China, South Korea and Italy at this point
So thats a low estimate of 20,000 people getting infected
10% of the infected require hospitalization
Thats 2000 people needing hospitalization
Aruba has one hospital with about 350 beds.

SO THATS THE CRISIS!!
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Re: corona virus

Postby DJM » Thu Mar 19, 2020 6:02 pm

Also Aruba has over One Million Tourists a year so the "population" is almost double on any given day. Every resort would turn into the Diamond Princess and the hospital and health care system would not only be over run, it would most likely collapse if even a fraction of JohnnyTram's calculations happen.

Sorry that people's vacations have been affected, but considering the consequences that they may encounter it will pale in comparison.

Wishing everyone all the best health!!
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Re: corona virus

Postby Kris02420 » Fri Mar 20, 2020 10:00 am

JohnnyTram wrote:@Kris02420 - You should refrain from calling this "the flu". The world has both treatment and a vaccine for influenza. We have also built up what is called a Heard Immunity to the common kinds of influenza strain and there for intense cases that require hospitalization are typically spread out both geographically and timeframe.

COVID-19 has no known treatment, no known vaccine, appears highly contagious and has the potential to infect a large population in a short period of time.

Some math to consider:

Aruba has a population of about 100,000 people (according to a Google search)
Coronavirus is infecting anywhere from 20-50% of the population based on data from China, South Korea and Italy at this point
So thats a low estimate of 20,000 people getting infected
10% of the infected require hospitalization
Thats 2000 people needing hospitalization


Aruba has one hospital with about 350 beds.

SO THATS THE CRISIS!!



First of all we were responding to Lisa K ‘s post !!!! That being said we certainly aren’t looking for nor do we need an education from anyone about the Wuhan virus or what ever other name you wanna call it !!!! Nor any politically correct rhetoric from anyone !!!! DO YOU GET THAT !!!!!! Have a great day and god bless the people of Aruba as well the rest of the world in these trying times .
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Re: corona virus

Postby JohnnyTram » Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:04 pm

@Kris02420 - Its obvious you have to be educated on a great many things.

Nothing in my comments was politically correct, it was all based on science, math and data that is readily available to anyone with the ability to seek it out.

I wanted to be clear as to why authorities are shutting things down. While Covid-19 is the underlying cause, the reason for closure of society is to prevent failure of medical systems around the world.

But if you want to get political:

Lets let the virus rip through society. I am not in the at risk group, so killing off a healthy percentage of old sick people will benefit us millennials in many ways. Cleaner air, cleaner water, less stress on social safety nets like medicare and social security, less traffic AND it will change the voting block in America forever! So lets have at it!

Now you can say you don't need to be educated with politically correct nonsense.
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Re: corona virus

Postby albaz1369 » Thu May 21, 2020 12:12 pm

I just heard some disturbing news regarding the maintenance fees. I have a couple to weeks at another resort and although the entire staff are not working, they continue to receive their weekly salaries. I would hazard a bet that all the resorts are taking care of their employees by paying their full salaries. I don't think the government provides unemployment benefits. If this is the case than I can see why we will not get any rebates on maintenance fees.
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